Concerning these issues, Patrick Navas has written a helpful 49 page paper that may be helpful for some as it pertains to Christ's preexistence. Pre Human Existence
By the way, I want to thank the uploader for allowing me to upload this file on their site/account.
John8:23KJV"And he said to them,'ye are from beneath;I am from above;ye are of this world;I am not of this world." The salient point here is that is being from above made him unique among men.If it were merely a matter of his existing as a concept in Jehovah's mind.This would hardly make him unique.John6:62KJV"What and if ye shall see the son of man ascend up where he was before?"
ReplyDeleteAre we to understand this as Christ again becoming a concept in Jehovah's mind or more naturally as his resuming the divinity he enjoyed prior to his human existence,alongside his father Jehovah and the angels.
Good point. If John is merely suggesting that Christ was a thought in God's mind, then he's not unique at all, for we would all be a thought in God's mind too or at least, the angels would!
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I don't know if you still look at this blog, but on this post I have a few thoughts.
ReplyDeleteAugustine says that Jesus existed as God and like God was everywhere. To support this he cites John 1:10, which says that Jesus "was in the world." Then he adds that Jesus was sent in that he became a man, taking on another nature (and that it was in this nature that Jesus is less than God). This second, human nature, can be seen in John 1:11 ("He came to his own place, but they did not accept him")
I object to this because John 1:10,11 most obviously refer to the same occurrence, one generalized (the whole world) the other more specific (Israel). He was sent of course, but there is no indication that he took on a new nature and kept the old one.
I guess, looking back at the comment, that this isn't directly related, but I'll post it anyway.